Doctor alleges & details the dire consequences coming to Canada, US, etc

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My name is Dr. Mohamed Abu-Abed and I am a hospital based physician at Brampton Civic Hospital and am the Medical Director of two Long Term Care Homes in Peel Region. I am writing to urge you to have vision and decisive action in what will be a defining moment in Canada’s history. This is truly an unprecedented event in modern history.

The coronavirus for most people is more like a bad cold ~80% of the time. However for those that get very sick survival is completely based on availability of ICU level care. Northern Italy continues to see a rise in deaths as they have maxed out capacity. To understand, Lombardy is the wealthiest part of Italy and it is one of the wealthiest regions in the EU. In Ontario, we have an average of 2 hospital beds per 1000 people. In Italy they have 3.18 hospital beds per 1000 people; that is 59% more capacity.

In those that get sick 10% of the time they will require ICU level care. They will require life support machines (ventilators). In Italy they have so many sick that there are no ventilators left to use. The lock down in the country was called when their health care system began to collapse. People are dying because there is literally no way to treat them. Italian guidelines now specify that if you are 60 or older and get sick requiring ICU level care, you will not even be considered for a ventilator, as priority is given to the young who have a better chance at living; if and when a ventilator becomes available. The usual length of time someone is on a ventilator is 2 to 8 weeks, before they either die or recover. Turn around is very slow. To repeat they have maxed out their ICU capacity. Doctors are now deciding who to place on respirators and who will be allowed to die. There are no respirators, the old and sick are allowed to die. If you get sick from anything else, appendix ruptures, car accident, heart attack, etc and need ICU level care, you will likely die. There is no capacity left! 10% of their health care workers are unable to work due to the illness.

Italy went from 153 cases on February 23rd to 7375 cases on March 7th, when the decision to shut down Lombardy was made. In those 13days the country decided to wait and see, only to learn now that it was a grievous mistake. Even after the shutdown of the entire country the case numbers are growing tremendously and will continue to do so with a shattered health care system. There will be thousands more in deaths. Because of the saturation of the health care system the mortality rate is at 6.7% right now. In a Country such as South Korea that has enacted strict and decisive measures, they also have the luxury of 13 beds per 1000 people, or 6.5 times the capacity of Ontario, they only have a 0.8% mortality rate. Do not fool yourself; Canada will have bigger problems than Italy with higher death rates as we will saturate our ICUs quicker. To repeat we have 2 hospital beds per 1000 people, Italy has 3.18 per 1000 and South Korea has 13 per 1000.

Canada reported 158 cases today (Almost exactly where Italy was 13 days before they shut down Lombardy). COVID has been slowly rising in Canada and initially felt to be under control and related to travel, in the last 24 hours the numbers related to US travel has significantly grown. It is exceptionally clear that the US numbers are only low because they do NOT have access to test kits. In New York, Governor Cuomo announced today that they will not have adequate test kits until sometime next week. Washington State is also seeing a major backlog. In the medical community it is felt that in those two clusters we likely have well over 10,000 cases in each cluster. In an interview today with Governor Cuomo, New York is expecting to be in the same situation as Italy and Wuhan in the coming week.

In no uncertain terms with an open and free border between the US and Canada we are on a path to a larger disaster than Italy. In this next week, we will likely enter a point of no return and when that happens there will be mass casualties and the economic impact of those loses will be felt and remembered as a failure of our administrations to act.

It takes courage to make bold decisions I do not envy the position you are in. As a father, as a son, as a physician who will see thousands die needlessly I implore you to enact a countrywide quarantine/shut down. With March break approaching 1000s will be infected and every day we delay is thousands more deaths. There is a point of no return coming. Wuhan has seen it, Italy has seen it, Spain is likely going to see it, New York and Washington State will see it. Canada has hope but we need to act NOW.

Please contact me if you have any questions. As a physician working at one of the busiest hospitals in the Country for almost a decade I can without a doubt advise there is minimal capacity to absorb the shock of the increased health care load that is coming. When our health care system saturates; as did Italy’s we will see mass needless loss.
Thank you for your time.

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Dr. Mohamed Abu-Abed, B.Eng, MD, CCFP
Medical Director | Peel Manor and Tall Pines Long Term Care | Regional Municipality of Peel Hospitalist Medicine | Brampton Civic Hospital | William Osler Health System

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[rwjr]

Oh great ..... With a name like that he might be MUSLIM

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[Salsantorre]

Oh great ..... With a name like that he might be MUSLIM

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And you might be an asshole. No, wait.... you ARE an asshole no question about it.

 

[rolltide]

Let me get this straight.... You're reposting some doctor's thread from a site dedicated to Happy Ending reviews from massage parlors? I guess there are people dumber than mobdeeper

 

[unusualsusp11]

it's only 80 years olds that are at risk and they are expendable anyway. whether you agree or not they are.

 

[rwjr]

I went to the hospital a few months ago Sal & when I got called to see / wait for a doc in the back guess who comes walking in a guy named Mohammad ( Dr. Mohammad whatever he said ) I asked if he was a Muslim & he proudly replied yes ...... told him I wanted somebody else , he looked perplexed / dumbfounded .... whatever , I told him I'd rather have another doctor & he left for awhile & about 20 fucking minutes later another guy comes in ( this time an Indian) & he looked at me after introducing himself & asked if I had a problem with Hindus( in a smart ass way no mind you ) .... I told him no but thanks for taking your sweet ass time to see me I'm kinda hurting here doc .

 

[StevieRay]

Let me get this straight.... You're reposting some doctor's thread from a site dedicated to Happy Ending reviews from massage parlors? I guess there are people dumber than mobdeeper

Lol

 

[rwjr]

it's only 80 years olds that are at risk and they are expendable anyway. whether you agree or not they are.

Way to show your compassion to your fellow human beings dickwad Slapping-silly90))

 

[Railbird]

Italian men are notorious chain smokers, so already compromised lungs. don't hug an Asian

 

[unusualsusp11]

Way to show your compassion to your fellow human beings dickwad Slapping-silly90))

i think there was a movie "they were expendable" war film i think. they weren't. anyone in a nursing home who gets their lifetime net worth drained by them are. once your money runs out if you are in there and they only get your social security check care diminishes tenfold. tell me one person who has ever been in a nursing home gets out and restarts their life. 100% croak rate.

 

[StevieRay]

Italian men are notorious chain smokers, so already compromised lungs. don't hug an Asian

What idiots. The leader should be ran out for that move , cost lives of his country even if old and smokers

 

[rolltide]

Italian men are notorious chain smokers, so already compromised lungs. don't hug an Asian

and Italy still playing the PC game by not disclosing what % of northern Italians infected are Italians vs the % that are Chinese who went back home for holiday. Chinese have the same shitty lungs as Italians from decades of smoking and living in smog-filled cities

if the WHO and Italy were less concerned with racism and more concerned about the health of Italians many thousands of lives would have been saved.

America taking that same path now....

 

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it's only 80 years olds that are at risk and they are expendable anyway. whether you agree or not they are.

President Trump will be 74 in a few months, almost 80 as president if he wins the election & lives through the next term in office. So you're saying a president of the United States is expendable?

Moreover, this CDC report says:

"These preliminary data also demonstrate that severe illness leading to hospitalization, including ICU admission and death, can occur in adults of any age with COVID-19."

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6912e2_w

"As of March 16, a total of 4,226 COVID-19 cases had been reported in the United States, with reports increasing to 500 or more cases per day beginning March 14 (Figure 1). Among 2,449 patients with known age, 6% were aged ≥85, 25% were aged 65–84 years, 18% each were aged 55–64 years and 45–54 years, and 29% were aged 20–44 years...

"Among 508 (12%) patients known to have been hospitalized, 9% were aged ≥85 years, 26% were aged 65–84 years, 17% were aged 55–64 years, 18% were 45–54 years, and 20% were aged 20–44 years...

"Among 121 patients known to have been admitted to an ICU, 7% of cases were reported among adults ≥85 years, 46% among adults aged 65–84 years, 36% among adults aged 45–64 years, and 12% among adults aged 20–44 years..."

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6912e2_w

 

[Enfuego]

President Trump will be 74 in a few months, almost 80 as president if he wins the election & lives through the next term in office. So you're saying a president of the United States is expendable?

Moreover, this CDC report says:

"These preliminary data also demonstrate that severe illness leading to hospitalization, including ICU admission and death, can occur in adults of any age with COVID-19."

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6912e2_w

"As of March 16, a total of 4,226 COVID-19 cases had been reported in the United States, with reports increasing to 500 or more cases per day beginning March 14 (Figure 1). Among 2,449 patients with known age, 6% were aged ≥85, 25% were aged 65–84 years, 18% each were aged 55–64 years and 45–54 years, and 29% were aged 20–44 years...

"Among 508 (12%) patients known to have been hospitalized, 9% were aged ≥85 years, 26% were aged 65–84 years, 17% were aged 55–64 years, 18% were 45–54 years, and 20% were aged 20–44 years...

"Among 121 patients known to have been admitted to an ICU, 7% of cases were reported among adults ≥85 years, 46% among adults aged 65–84 years, 36% among adults aged 45–64 years, and 12% among adults aged 20–44 years..."

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6912e2_w

To keep the economy moving and Americans working, yes, old ass people are expendable. Sorry, this is the truth.

 

[X-Files]

Let me get this straight.... You're reposting some doctor's thread from a site dedicated to Happy Ending reviews from massage parlors? I guess there are people dumber than mobdeeper

Because doctors have no intelligence & neither do folks who post on sites where people are sharp enough to realize paying for sex is cheaper than sex for free? But guys who are gambling degenerates are the creme de la creme of society's geniuses?

It's clear to me that many very intelligent people post on both types of sites' forums, both gambling & pooning.

 

[Enfuego]

Because doctors have no intelligence & neither do folks who post on sites where people are sharp enough to realize paying for sex is cheaper than sex for free? But guys who are gambling degenerates are the creme de la creme of society's geniuses?

It's clear to me that many very intelligent people post on both types of sites forums, gambling & pooning.

Let's just be real, if you're reading those sex sites, you're a fucking loser dude. Go out and talk to a woman.

 

[X-Files]

Let's just be real, if you're reading those sex sites, you're a fucking loser dude. Go out and talk to a woman.

Why would i want to talk to a woman or hear anything she has to say?

Based on how much time you spend on a man's only site, you certainly don't ;